The discussion centers around the challenges and opportunities of migrating from US-based cloud services to alternatives, particularly emphasizing the complexities of available options. While some users believe they have successfully transitioned, others highlight significant gaps such as vendor lock-in with alternatives like Proton and the difficulties inherent in migrating services like Git repositories. The importance of self-hosting is explored, with several users advocating for decentralized hosting solutions as viable options. However, concerns remain regarding the functionality, complexity, and reliability of these services. There is a call for European companies to capitalize on this opportunity, wishing for more competitive and privacy-respecting alternatives to existing US services. The dialogue also addresses the implications of current cloud dominance and the need for innovation in cloud computing, particularly in identity management systems (IAM).